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Time Magazine Conflates Destroyed Torture Tapes, 'Conspiracy Theorists'

by: Dark Wraith

Time magazine, Media Whore Edition


Referring to the tapes the CIA destroyed of men being tortured by American interrogators, the title of the Time magazine story on the matter is thus: "The Destroyed Tapes: A Boon for Conspiracy Theorists."

Isn't that just special?! The principal crime is torture; the subsequent crime is destruction of the incontrovertible evidence; and the continuing crime is obstruction of justice in not revealing the existence of the tapes, and then not disclosing their destruction. With all of that as backdrop, Time magazine's editors—noses high in the air of preening respectability—frame the whole, monstrously ugly story as the essential nourishment for all those loony 'conspiracy theorists' out there.

In their faux appearance of objectivity, these same mainstream news media outlets—and not just Time—make little or no effort in their own voices to roundly debunk the utterly ridiculous claim by CIA Director Michael Hayden that the video tapes had to be destroyed lest they be leaked and imperil the lives of the torturers who were filmed executing their craft. Instead, the media uniformly leave that task to quotes by outraged Democrats, thereby framing the matter as a politicized controversy rather than as a pattern of criminal acts that, taken as a whole, constitute a conspiracy in the legal sense of that term, a term Time has ensured carries in the matter the lack of seriousness with which "conspiracy theorists" should be taken.

The august editorial ranks of the mainstream media notwithstanding, however, civil and criminal proceedings are likely to result on the separate acts as well as on the acts as part of an overall scheme: the withholding of the tapes from relevant investigatory bodies, including the 9/11 Commission and committees of the House and Senate, the destruction of the tapes in 2005, and the withholding until now of the fact that the heretofore unknown tapes were destroyed may be simply too much for the dismissive wing of the reputable media, still doing what it can to curry favor with the Bush White House, to help sweep under the rug. In the event that serious legal consequences befall those involved, Time magazine and other reputable media outlets may find it necessary to find terminology other than "conspiracy theory" to denigrate those alleging a pattern, scheme, and overall plan to mislead and lie to the American people and investigators. Perhaps Time might want to consider something along the lines of "America-hating terrorist supporters." At the very least, such a description will ensure that the important people at the magazine will retain their access to the White House officials who are, at least in the eyes of Time magazine, more credible than damning evidence and glaring truths.


The Dark Wraith, for the record, does not subscribe to news magazines published and written by shills.

Crossposted from The Dark Wraith Forums


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19 comments:

This was the cover (and cover story) of the issue of Time that convinced me that they were not journalists, but just hacks that happened to be selling a glossy edition of the Weekly World News:

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,1101950703,00.html

I think NBC News Overnight, which ran in the early to mid 80's, was the best news program, mainly due to the fact that its stories about came from outside the US. As the 90's unfolded, and the level of MSM 'news' continued to limbo dance its way below the gutter, I stopped bothering with the traditional outlets for my news. I now use the internet to get my news - from several different sources - and I feel I'm better informed than any who are glued to 24 hour news channels.
by: Marcus (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 05:47
There was an ad on the back page of, I believe, Time back in the early 80s that showed a tombstone inscribed with something to the effect:

"Here lies the mind of (so and so) age (whatever):
stopped thinking 1984"

I'm sure that memory is clouded about exact words, but the intent is correct. I've been trying to find it for a while. If anyone remembers this let me know. Sorry I couldn't be more specific.

It would make a great picture for today's magazine and media in general.
by: Father Tyme (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 08:46
The heck with Time ragazine. Keith Olbermann, on the other hand, gets down to it:

Spies Lies & Videotape: It was Richard Nixon's profound -- and prophetic -- observation. "It's not the crime that brings you down, it's the cover-up." He left out the corollary... or... maybe... both. Our fifth story on the Countdown: in a page out of Watergate... it now turns out not only were there tapes in "Water-Boarding-Gate"... but just like the 18-and-a-half minute gap from 1973... the tapes were erased. The CIA destroyed at least two video recordings... showing Al Qaeda suspects being subjected to waterboarding and other interrogation techniques... allegedly because of concerns the interrogators could be facing legal consequences for their actions. And the news breaking tonight on this: at least somebody in the White House reportedly knew about the destruction of evidence... in advance.

And I liked this by Larry Johnson over at TPM cafe:

Are you telling me that CIA has not figured out how to edit videotapes and cover the faces and voices of their personnel? I’m sure there is a 14 year old computer geek out there somewhere with a MacBook Pro who is ready and willing to help the CIA do the necessary editing to protect their personnel. The Hayden excuse does not pass the bullshit test.
by: Foiled Goil (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 10:59
good morning dark wraith:

as an honest, hard working jingle whore i must protest to the way that my honorable profession is sullied by being thrown in the same mix as journalists and politicians. i actually perform a service. yes, money is exchanged. yes, my pimp, and his associates all take their cut. but, there is fair and equal exchange going on. some might call what i do an art form. it's a very old one. mass media and republican politics are all johnny come lately (and stupidly) into the realm of human interaction.

now, if you'll excuse me, john is about to visit and my leather miniskirt needs a touch-up.
by: Minstrel Boy (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 11:22
cool
by: Dark Wraith (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 12:19
They left no stone unturned when it came to Clinton's sex life but when it comes to defending the Constitution and doing their job... Sigh. ead

I'm going to get Alzheimer's from banging my head so much.
by: Deb (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 12:24
That, or if the brain damage becomes extensive enough, Republicans will start sounding reasonable.
by: Dark Wraith (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 12:34
There is no way I could do that much damage to myself. 4
by: Debra (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 13:18
Well, yes, Debra, it's not just the brain that has to suffer extensive damage. To make Republican Presidential candidates sound reasonable, the nose has to be pretty much ruined, too; otherwise, a person would be quickly overwhelmed by the stench of pandering to American values like religious hypocrisy, veiled intolerance, and solutions that always hurt the poor and usually involve some form of economic, physical, or emotional violence.

Then again, considering the thunderous applause those Republican candidates get from their thunderously simpleton audiences, there must be a whole lot of good folks in this country who actually like the smell of imbecility and jackboot polish.

Must be a genetic mutation.

The Dark Wraith always wondered why inbreeding was such a bad idea.
by: Dark Wraith (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 13:31
Seems the meds have bypassed the water cooler for a more direct route. Good call! .
by: trog69 (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 15:08
Though I find myself in Arkieville again, to no good, I promise that I had nothing to do with the Huckster. The only religious guy I ever voted for was a Sunday School teacher, Jimmy Carter.

The stench from here is horrible, is it possible that Hope, Arkieville could strike twice?? Hope not, and no pun intended.

If you would really like to waste some time and risk your life and limbs, argue with a fundie over politics. To me they are proof of deviloution. Totally emotional, and obviously deranged.

Church anyone?
by: blackdog (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 17:39
"The whole world is my church. I'm never not in church." -- as quoted by Marsha Sinetar in her book Ordinary People As Monks and Mystics.
by: Peter of Lone Tree (contact) - 08 Dec '07 - 18:26
That's the REAL truth, Peter. If you accept the tenets of Christianity based on helping those less fortunate, then congregating at a particular "Church" would have only one purpose; Networking amongst themselves to best efficiency, in aiding their community. I do commend some of the attempts made in Africa by some Christian churches, but only to point that at least some assistance activity is provided to the desperately poor there. Many times this also produces one certain type of "God's Minister" to the wretches; One amongst them with a real gift of gab regarding his miraculous conversion, and obvious enrichment because of it. All of the denominations that host African outposts of their special Holy ingredients have the Minister there come to America and proselytize at the main assembly. My experience with about 8 or 10 such sermons has been to hear a certain exuberence for their outpouring of devotional Love for the Supreme Being. They make up for any elided English by speaking QUITE LOUDLY! I presume one plus for the membership is that tithing to African ministries now, grants you early exit privileges during the actual deafening of the lambs.
by: trog69 (contact) - 09 Dec '07 - 02:28
A church as a place of worship has served its purpose and has devolved into another thing. While it may have been a good idea before "Israel 4 B.C. had no mass communication...", the reason for a church today is patently superficial.

Don't believe me? Try going into any Sunday pep rally dressed in raggedy cutoffs, a dirty sweatshirt and sandals. Add long unkempt hair, no bath for a day or so and maybe even bad breath and see how the hypocrites take to it.

No, today's Sunday Morning Worshiper is more concerned with appearance than religion. Right gals? And if you think the righteous are so divinely infused with the word of their gawd, pull out in front of one as they leave the church and watch their reaction!

If you can't find your gawd in your OWN heart, you aren't going to find it on display in some gaudily pretensive holy building somewhere marked down as a limited blue light special for an hour a week... if that.
by: Father Tyme (contact) - 09 Dec '07 - 08:51
I am sure, Padre, that there has been stuff written on the evolution of the ostentatious peacock parade. Perhaps earlier in America's history, the mothers had to show the congregation that she was indeed a good home maker and seamstress. I remember as a kid, there was A set of "Sunday Best", with perhaps another,a size too big, hanging in wait. My wife and daughter have a closet full of clothes good enough for Sunday, with the wife's fear reduced to "not looking like white trash".

Hey, white trash gets on COPS a lot. I wanna be a movie star too! Mebbe Springer!? If white trash had their own church, would there be a non-smoking section?
by: trog69 (contact) - 09 Dec '07 - 09:40
One Sunday morning an old cowboy entered a church just before services were to begin. Although the old man and his clothes were spotlessly clean, he wore jeans, a denim shirt and boots that were very worn and ragged. In his hand he carried a worn-out old hat and an equally worn-out old Bible.

The church he entered was in a very upscale and exclusive part of the city. It was the largest and most beautiful church the old cowboy had ever seen. It had high cathedral ceilings, ornate statues, beautiful murals and stained-glass windows, plush carpet and velvet like cushioned pews. The building must have cost many millions of dollars to build and maintain. The men, women and children of the congregation were all dressed in the finest and most expensive suits, dresses, shoes and jewelry the old cowboy had ever witnessed.

As the poorly dressed cowboy took a seat, the others moved away from him. No one greeted him. No one welcomed him. No one offered a handshake. No one spoke to him. They were all appalled at his appearance and did not attempt to hide the fact. There were many glances in his direction as the others frowned and commented among themselves about his shabby attire. A few chuckles and giggles came from some of the younger members.

As the old cowboy was leaving the church, the preacher approached him. Instead of welcoming him, the preacher asked the cowboy to do him a favor. "Before you come back in here again, have a talk with God and ask him what he thinks would be appropriate attire for worshipping in this church," the preacher said. The old cowboy assured the preacher he would do that and left.

The very next Sunday morning the old cowboy showed back up for the services wearing the same ragged jeans, shirt, boots and hat. Once again the congregation was appalled at his appearance. He was completely shunned and ignored again. The preacher noticed the man still wearing his ragged clothes and boots, and instead of beginning his sermon, stepped down from the pulpit and walked over to where the man sat alone.

"I thought I asked you to speak to God before you came back to our church," the preacher said.

"I did," replied the old cowboy.

"If you spoke to God, what did He tell you the proper attire should be for worshipping in here?" asked the preacher.

"Well, sir," said the old cowboy, "God told me that He wouldn’t have the slightest idea what was appropriate attire for worshipping in your church. He says He’s never even been in here."
by: Foiled Goil (contact) - 09 Dec '07 - 16:02
Just so I end this beautiful evening on a less cynical note, after a good story like FG's, I gotta tell ya, 'cept fer the "frayed part", that's my father-in-law described. The best way to picture him is to think of an 80+yo bantam rooster. 145 lbs soakin' wet, I've never seen the man without creased jeans, white t-shirt under buttoned one, and engineer boots.(Just this year, he bought his first pair of 'tennis sneakers'; Says they make his back hurt!) More than 45 years as a heavy equipment operator in the mines, has left the tendons in his hands pulled and twisted. Even then, the only thing that brings him in the house is Gunsmoke at 10:00a.m. He's the kind of guy who's wired 220, while the rest of us settle for 110. Unbelievable. With guys like him fighting in WWII, it's no wonder we whupped ass. Here's where he gets kinda weird; He leans left, politically! For an old-timer from Georgia, (And don't get me wrong, he's as prejudiced as that implies.) he knows what the social net's value is for society. He understands how the Corporations are running our country now, and the Republicans he voted for in a previous era, no longer exist.

Well anyway, that's it. I sure do admire ol' Red. I guarantee you would to; I've never even heard of someone not liking the hell out the guy right off the bat, smiling and flirtin' as is his wont. Just, whatever you do, don't argue with the man. "Gettin' his Irish up" takes a whole new meaning facing that implacable force!
by: trog69 (contact) - 09 Dec '07 - 20:56
Here's to 'ol Red. May his type continue forever. Trog, you're a fortunate guy.
by: blackdog (contact) - 10 Dec '07 - 04:09
Mornin' blackdog.

Yes indeed! I'm reminded how lucky whenever I've had a vehicle break down! rthy
by: trog69 (contact) - 10 Dec '07 - 07:41



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