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Bush To Veto Defense Bill

by: Foiled Goil

Even though Congress is NOT in recess because the Senate is holding pro forma sessions every two to three days until January 18, when lawmakers resume their work after the holidays, George W. Bush, continuing his assertion that the Constitution is just a God-damned piece of paper suggestion, has decided to veto the Defense Authorization Bill:
I am withholding my approval of H.R. 1585, the "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008," because it would imperil billions of dollars of Iraqi assets at a crucial juncture in that nation's reconstruction efforts and because it would undermine the foreign policy and commercial interests of the United States.
The adjournment of the Congress has prevented my return of H.R. 1585 within the meaning of Article I, section 7, clause 2 of the Constitution. Accordingly, my withholding of approval from the bill precludes its becoming law. The Pocket Veto Case, 279 U.S. 655 (1929). In addition to withholding my signature and thereby invoking my constitutional power to "pocket veto" bills during an adjournment of the Congress, I am also sending H.R. 1585 to the Clerk of the House of Representatives, along with this memorandum setting forth my objections, to avoid unnecessary litigation about the non-enactment of the bill that results from my withholding approval and to leave no doubt that the bill is being vetoed.
That's right, civics fans: Bush is claiming this is a "pocket veto," as defined in Article I, section 7 of the Constitution:
Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large in their journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the bill, it shall be sent, together with the objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a law. But in all such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the persons voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journal of each House respectively. If any bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a law.
Because the bill has so much in it for veterans and active members of the Armed Forces, Bush apparently doesn't dare sign an affirmative veto. Instead, he'll pretend it... just went away on its own.

But this bill was presented to the president for his signature on December 19th. It's been eight days since then, not counting Sundays as the Constitution outlines. Seven if you give an extra day for Christmas. Hasn't been ten days yet.

Not only that, but you may recall that the Senate has remained in session all this time explicitly to prevent trickery like this. The most oft-cited reason was to prevent recess appointments, but the pro forma sessions -- the most recent of which was held today, yes, the very day Bush claimed there was no session -- also serve to avoid adjournment, and therefore the pocket veto.

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The final Defense Authorization Bill for FY 2008, H.R. 1585 was passed by the House on December 12th, 2007:
This measure will provide the necessary resources and authorities to quickly and efficiently reverse declining trends in military readiness, and will also provide our service members in harm’s way with the best gear and force protection possible. Under the conference report, our troops will get better health care, better pay, and the benefits they have earned.
Congress sent H.R. 1585, the 2008 National Defense Authorization Act, to the President for his signature on December 19, 2007:

The Bush Administration had worked closely with the Congress in the development of this legislation and gave no indication prior to its passage that one section of the bill could generate a presidential veto.

Subsequently, the government of Iraq raised objections to Section 1083, in which Congress strengthened the ability of victims of the brutality of Saddam Hussein to seek compensation. The Iraqi government has warned that plaintiffs, including former U.S. POWs who had been held captive during the first Gulf War in the 1990s, might cite this section in seeking compensation from its assets currently in U.S. banks — reportedly $25 billion. The Iraqi government has threatened that, unless President Bush agrees to veto the Defense Department legislation, Iraqi leaders will immediately move assets out of U.S. banks.

Congress and the White House have been engaged in discussions about reviewing the effect of Section 1083 and considering whether additional action is warranted. Congressional leaders have indicated a willingness to consider technical corrections to resolve the Administration’s new objections, if justified.

The Administration, however, reportedly intends to move ahead and announce that the President intends to veto H.R. 1585, placing in jeopardy the military pay raise and the Wounded Warrior program endorsed by the Congress, and complicating efforts to address concerns raised about Section 1083.
"Despite the Administration's earlier support for the Department of Defense authorization bill, it appears that President Bush plans to veto this legislation, which is crucial to our armed forces and their families.

"The Defense bill passed both houses of Congress by overwhelming bipartisan margins and addresses urgent national security priorities, including a 3.5 percent pay raise for our troops and Wounded Warriors legislation to remedy our veterans' health care system. It is unfortunate that the President will not sign this critical legislation."
House vote, December 12, 2007: YEAs 370, NAYs 49, Not Voting 12

Senate vote, December 14, 2007: YEAs 90, NAYs 3, Not Voting 7


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11 comments:

I'm sure the MSM will get on this right away so the American Public will know what a great leader we have.
We sure can't have the money we poured into I-Rack in danger of going to Americans who fought for the oil or taking any of it away from the corrupt I-Rackee gov or Halliburton puppets.
That's what the Bush Deficit is for.
by: Father Tyme (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 08:48
The Defense Authorization originated in the House of Representatives, which adjourned the First Session of the 110th Congress sine die on December 19. The Senate has held pro forma sessions since then, preventing the president from make recess appointments. Because the House is adjourned sine die and it originated the Defense bill, the president cannot "return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated."

As pissy as Bush's pocket veto may be, it is going to stand.
by: Billy Bob (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 08:53
I ranted about the veto yesterday, but from the context of supporting the troops and the stupidity of the Demowienies. If they had any brains, Pelosi and associates could come back today and hold a session, which would put a ringer into their plan.

But the Dems won't because they have let Bush have everything he wanted, why stop now. ead
by: Deb (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 12:22
You are probably right on that count, Billy Bob. My brainpan is hot to the touch, trying to get my mind around just how many entitie's asses Uncurious George is trying to cover with his complaints that Iraqi assets must not be touchable by judicial means. Don't get him wrong, he sez, he would love nothing more than to up the pay for his troops to Enron CEO-levels, and build a private hospital room in all the injured soldier's homes, but that doggone little itty-bitty detail has derailed the whole durn thing. Damn lefties and their greed. rolleyes
by: trog69 (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 12:23
"This deficit is your's now.
This deficit is mine, now.
He can't be bothered;
Too busy writin' speeches.
From Californyeah, to the New Hampshire Primary,
This land is going to the dogs."
by: trog69 (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 12:31
Maybe I have something to look forward to after all.
by: blackdog (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 14:54
I hope that everyone understands why Congress has failed, again, to pass all but one (Defense) appropriations bills. It has nothing to do with which party is in the majority, nor does it have anything to do with incompetence. By not passing these bills, it freezes funding at the previous year's level, saving the government billions of dollars by not having to include new programs that our representatives have promised their constituents. Also, the services that government agencies provide decline by the rate of the previous year's inflation.

As our Congress and Commander-in-Fleece continue to run this country into the ground, they've finally reached a point of no return. They've plundered our national treasury, stole every penny that was entrusted to them (trust funds, SSA, Govt retirement, etc.), and now that they've bankrupted our country, they have no choice, but to not approve appropriations bills. Don't be fooled by what is going on.

Concerning the DefAuthBill, there are a lot of good things in it, but even if passed as is, it leaves a lot of empty promises that will require funding (DefApprBills) in future fiscal years. Simply said, nothing is a done deal until its appropriated. The Authorization and Appropriations Bills are nothing without each other. Simply authorizing something means nothing unless that authorization is appropriated. Every item in the DefAuthBill that has been pushed off to future fiscal years are not appropriated for at this point. Future Congresses can choose later not to fund these items.

by: Jeff (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 16:54
The final Defense Authorization Bill for FY 2008, H.R. 1585 was passed by the House on December 12th, 2007
Congress sent H.R. 1585, the 2008 National Defense Authorization Act, to the President for his signature on December 19, 2007
Yo, Jeff! rolleyes

The Defense Authorization Bill WAS passed:

In the House, on Dec. 12, 2007 -- YEAs 370, NAYs 49, Not Voting 12

And

In the Senate, on Dec. 14, 2007 -- YEAs 90, NAYs 3, Not Voting 7
"The Defense bill passed both houses of Congress by overwhelming bipartisan margins ... "
by: Foiled Goil (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 18:13
The House is adjourned pursuant to S. Con. Res. 61, which says that when the House adjourns, it will stand adjourned sine die, or until the time of any reassembly pursuant to section 3 of this concurrent resolution.

Section 3 of the resolution says:
The Majority Leader of the Senate and the Speaker of the House, or their respective designees, acting jointly after consultation with the Minority Leader of the Senate and the Minority Leader of the House, shall notify Members of the Senate and the House, respectively, to reassemble at such a place and time as they may designate if, in their opinion, the public interest shall warrant it.


So the adjournment sine die is provisional, at best.

In addition, the most recent court cases on the pocket veto would appear to require the adjournment of both houses, i.e., "the Congress" for a pocket veto to be effective.
by: Kagro X (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 18:44
Thank {{you}}, Kagro X! sup
by: Foiled Goil (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 18:53
Yes indeed, thanks for the clarification.
by: trog69 (contact) - 29 Dec '07 - 20:55



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